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[01:21:14] <bschnei> Danct12: we do have packages for v8, but they are incomplete and not well supported (because it's just me poking at them maybe once a week). For some background on why we pivoted to 8.2, see here: https://gitlab.archlinux.org
[01:21:16] <phrik> Title: Packages fail to build without LSE support (#6) · Issues · Arch Linux / Ports / AArch64 / project-management · GitLab (at gitlab.archlinux.org)
[01:22:37] <bschnei> The current state is: we don't know what we don't know. With some recent versions of chromium, its possible one of the hurdles has been removed, but we really don't know if there are other packages needing v8-specific workarounds.
[01:24:49] <bschnei> If someone wants to install them on a pi4, I can provide repos, but that won't be a suitable build environment and ultimately we need to try to build the packages with march=arm-v8 to see if there are any more issues.
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[11:46:33] <solskogen|M1> what is the stance of having aarch64 only PKGBUILDs in AUR now?
[12:50:00] <danct12|M> <solskogen|M1> "what is the stance of having..." <- no x86_64 == remove
[12:50:10] <danct12|M> at least that was a few years ago
[12:51:13] <Antiz> We revised that at the summit
[12:53:05] <Antiz> With ongoing ports efforts, I think we acted that we would now be willing to accept other architecture specific packages.
[12:53:20] <danct12|M> neat
[12:53:39] <jelle> Antiz: it would be great if this was communicated *somewhere*
[12:53:44] <danct12|M> oh yeah Solskogen i forgot to mention
[12:53:57] <danct12|M> you got really nice toolchains in the repo and i like that :)
[12:54:13] <Antiz> jelle: Yes, we haven't communicated it publicly yet.
[12:54:26] <danct12|M> talking about the package group "risc-v"
[12:54:34] <solskogen|M1> danct12|M: what toolchains? :-)
[12:54:45] <jelle> Antiz: actually we should discuss this first
[12:55:00] <Antiz> jelle: Discuss what?
[12:55:03] <solskogen|M1> oh, but they are from Arch. They're not mine, in that sense.
[12:55:04] <danct12|M> like you got pretty much everything i expected from arch xD
[12:55:22] <jelle> Antiz: if we want to do this?
[12:55:23] <danct12|M> meanwhile alarm don't
[12:55:24] <solskogen|M1> Very few packages are made by me.
[12:55:31] <Antiz> I think the rule about non-x86_64 packages being prohibited was never actually written somewhere I think ^^
[12:55:42] <danct12|M> * alarm don't and i have to grab toolchains from arm/bootlin just to be able to do baremetal development on my orange pi 5
[12:55:44] <Antiz> jelle: Well, we kinda did at the summit
[12:56:17] <Antiz> jelle: But we can bring the subject to a broader audience for sure.
[12:56:51] <solskogen|M1> Then it should be written somewhere that it is okay :-) the aur mailing list is filled with deletion requests for arm specific packages.
[12:57:56] <solskogen|M1> Even today, there was one that was deleted (mesa-ps4)
[12:58:09] <Antiz> jelle: IIRC, the consensus from people participating into the port related discussion at the summit is that we should allow such packages nowadays. But we can definitely bring the topic to ADP or something to collect more thoughts before eventually publicly state it.
[12:58:36] <jelle> I don't know what as discussed, nothing has been communicated
[12:59:03] <Antiz> Notes for topic discussions have been published on GitLab.
[12:59:15] <Antiz> But sure, I agree, this should be brought to a wider audience
[12:59:29] <jelle> I don't know where I can find the notes nor saw a message about it
[13:00:22] <Antiz> jelle: Sent you a PM
[13:01:01] <Antiz> But anyway, I agree the subject should be brought to a broader audience before actually stating anything publicly
[13:02:40] <Antiz> solskogen|M1: "Even today, there was one that was deleted (mesa-ps4)" <-- As you probably understood from my above message, this is not yet done. We reconsidered / revised that rule at the summit but not everyone was present, nor anything have been publicly stated yet.
[13:03:02] <solskogen|M1> Ah, understood.
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[13:04:13] <Antiz> One of the actionable of said discussion at the summit was for me to write a followup of the first mail about non-x86_64 contributions (including the current state, new resources, next steps, etc...).
[13:04:32] <Antiz> I'll take that as an occasion to clarify that point with everyone :)
[13:04:46] <gromit> Antiz: do you have time for that? I'm currently in a train and could write a draft which we could both sign
[13:05:38] <Antiz> gromit: Not *right now*
[13:06:09] <Antiz> I can probably start a draft later this week, but if you're up to start one right now, please do :D
[14:05:37] <bertptrs> Antiz: IIUC the idea was to accept specific toolchain packages and bootloaders that our ports need, not necessarily open the flodgates
[14:06:14] <jelle> don't we have most toolchains already?
[14:06:26] <jelle> https://archlinux.org and binutils exists
[14:06:28] <phrik> Title: Arch Linux - aarch64-linux-gnu-gcc 15.1.0-2 (x86_64) (at archlinux.org)
[14:06:43] <solskogen|M1> we're missing x86_64-linux-gnu :-)
[14:07:09] <jelle> qemu!
[14:07:31] <solskogen|M1> the cross compiler, I mean. for running on aarch64.
[14:07:47] <solskogen|M1> It's... it's not on my priority list ;-)
[14:08:30] <jelle> solskogen|M1: https://github.com ;-)
[14:08:31] <phrik> Title: GitHub - FEX-Emu/FEX: A fast usermode x86 and x86-64 emulator for Arm64 Linux (at github.com)
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