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[06:12:21] <slainsavage> good morning all
[06:15:54] <Daanct12> o/
[07:14:58] <solskogen|M> nie: Yes, but the list is old so perhaps it isn't that much of a problem anymore
[07:19:48] <slainsavage> solskogen|M: I am still busy with the dbeaver package. I am busy with upstream to see if aarch64 can get added to the default build. I am also trying another approuch there is a switch for all-platforms that includes aarch64 so just making sure that wont cause uses with x86_64 and the current PKGBUILD file
[07:21:14] <solskogen|M> Very nice :)
[07:21:50] <solskogen|M> In order to get dbeaver into Aarch64 I had to use the bin package from aur. I'd like to get rid of that.
[07:23:45] <slainsavage> solskogen|M: my new solution is working much better and all it is "-Pall-platforms"
[07:23:59] <slainsavage> works on x86_64 and aarch64
[07:24:15] <slainsavage> no patches required
[07:24:39] <slainsavage> I will send the merge request through shortly
[07:26:26] <solskogen|M> Can you send me the link to your fork and branch? I'll try it.
[07:27:06] <slainsavage> solskogen|M: cool, will do. just need 10 minutes
[07:40:08] <slainsavage> solskogen|M: https://gitlab.archlinux.org
[07:40:09] <phrik> Title: Files · feature/dbeaver-all-platforms · Deon Spengler / dbeaver · GitLab (at gitlab.archlinux.org)
[07:40:31] <solskogen|M> Perfect. Will try later when the running build is finished :-)
[07:44:23] <slainsavage> solskogen|M: I have created a new MR for this
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[09:21:24] <solskogen|M> heftig: could you take a look here and please provide some feedback? https://gitlab.archlinux.org
[09:21:25] <phrik> Title: Make PKGBUILD architecture-aware (!2) · Merge requests · Arch Linux / Packaging / Packages / rust · GitLab (at gitlab.archlinux.org)
[09:40:53] <Daanct12> i still really need to reconfigure my orange pi 5 :>
[09:40:58] <Daanct12> gaaaaaah
[09:41:28] <solskogen|M> Go ahead :-)
[09:41:34] <Daanct12> ima do mainline u-boot, then mainline kernel
[09:41:45] <jelle> Daanct12: rockchip or allwinner? :p
[09:41:47] <Daanct12> i know rk3588 mainline support is really there
[09:41:51] <jelle> olala
[09:41:52] <Daanct12> rockdrip ofc
[09:41:57] <Daanct12> :)
[09:42:12] <Daanct12> i dont think there has been anything fun that has an arm soc came from allwinner
[09:42:17] <Daanct12> for like last 10 years
[09:42:24] <jelle> lol
[09:42:28] <jelle> Daanct12: that shows my age :(
[09:42:50] <Daanct12> jelle: hey i'm probably a lot younger than you :(
[09:42:54] <jelle> :D
[09:43:18] <solskogen|M> you're all young
[09:44:22] <Daanct12> currently at the coffee shop because it's chill over here xD
[09:44:34] <Daanct12> and guess what i saw
[09:45:00] <Daanct12> some dude literally setup a mac mini and does programming
[09:45:20] <jelle> I mean m1/m2 is prolly still best value performance / watt arm machine :p
[09:45:30] <Daanct12> agree
[09:45:39] <solskogen|M> who brings a monitor, keyboard, mouse and a computer to a coffee shop?!
[09:46:03] <jelle> I've been looking for one a second hand one every once in a while
[09:47:39] <Daanct12> solskogen|M: i've seen a few but not that often :P
[09:49:35] <Daanct12> i would definitely take a picture of that just to post it here but that'd be rude :P
[09:50:15] <slainsavage> Danct12: or you could take a selfie with that setup in the background
[09:51:04] <Daanct12> would also be rude because someone is sitting next to me
[09:51:13] <slainsavage> or just ask the person, say that it is a cool setup would they mind of you take a photo
[09:51:22] <slainsavage> Danct12: cool
[09:51:32] <Daanct12> LOL
[09:51:54] <Daanct12> btw im using a pinebook pro on fedora
[09:52:04] <jelle> best OS
[09:52:15] <Daanct12> i love software patents
[09:52:18] <Daanct12> <3
[09:53:13] <Daanct12> jelle: honestly i'd still be on arch linux arm if it wasnt for that being so unmaintained and broken
[09:53:32] <jelle> Daanct12: right, because technically I guess fedora does not support pinebook pro either? :p
[09:53:47] <Daanct12> it actually does
[09:53:54] <jelle> I see
[09:54:04] <Daanct12> i think there are images for that but who uses that :D
[09:54:25] <Daanct12> i just downloaded fedora server, threw it on an usb stick and u-boot efi implementation does the work
[09:54:35] <jelle> oh nice
[09:54:36] <Daanct12> also i run my own u-boot build
[09:59:11] * danct12|M uploaded an image: (138KiB) < https://matrix.archlinux.org >
[10:00:59] <Daanct12> this is how that u-boot build looks like
[10:01:07] <Daanct12> :^)
[10:01:19] <jelle> neat
[10:01:25] <jelle> never seen uefi arm :D
[10:01:42] <Daanct12> they've been pushing uefi very hard on arm
[10:01:55] <Daanct12> and also windows
[10:02:15] <Daanct12> because qualcomm exclusive contract has expired
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[12:08:11] <strit|M> UEFI support on more devices would be great. Not many has the firmware for it I think.
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[14:14:33] <danct12|M> <strit|M> "UEFI support on more devices..." <- depends on what you mean by uefi support
[14:14:48] <danct12|M> u-boot's uefi implementation is also uefi support
[14:25:30] <strit|M> As long as it can boot .efi without extra configurations needed. 😃
[14:32:43] <solskogen|M> tell that to my goddamn odroid m2. I can't get that to boot our arch kernel.
[14:33:33] <jelle> I assume that has uboot?
[14:34:43] <solskogen|M> it has. and it's suppose to have the dtbs included in it as well. But there's no output after grub other than it has loaded initramfs.
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[16:10:40] <danct12|M> <solskogen|M> "it has. and it's suppose to have..." <- Probably because GRUB uses U-Boot's DTB
[16:11:11] <danct12|M> You can manually force Grub to use an existing DTB inside the boot partition
[17:05:52] <bschnei> jelle: I'm aware of u-boot and edk2 providing uefi implementations for ARM. edk2 is what you find on cloud vms. U-boot cannot be ancient and has to be configured with uefi support.
[17:09:32] <bschnei> also be aware that U-Boots implementation of uefi follows a spec that has fewer features than that of edk2. https://docs.u-boot.org
[17:09:34] <phrik> Title: UEFI on U-Boot — Das U-Boot unknown version documentation (at docs.u-boot.org)
[17:11:46] <bschnei> ARM devices that can boot via UEFI will be easy to support. Others (like RPi) will likely need vendor-specific documentation and/or kernel packages to work.
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[20:18:14] <solskogen|M> goddamn, composablekernel takes a hell of a long time to compile. It's been going for almost 6 hours and is still only on [792/1870]
[20:27:36] <gromit> solskogen|M: yeah composable kernel takes a really long time to build :D
[22:27:19] <solskogen|M> But how long? 12 hours?
[22:42:26] <gromit> solskogen|M: yeah something around that on our build machine which does chromium in ~50 min :D
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[23:30:49] <wCPO> bschnei: edk2 has a UEFI implemention for some generations of RPIs. Not sure if that is a help tho
[23:55:10] <bschnei> wCPO: yup. I'm aware of a couple projects out there. Like this one: https://github.com
[23:55:11] <phrik> Title: GitHub - NumberOneGit/rpi5-uefi: EDK2 firmware images for Raspberry Pi 5 D0 (at github.com)
[23:57:18] <bschnei> For now, I'm trying to take a pragmatic view that Arch Linux users shouldn't *have* to flash non-factory bootloader. Ideally we provide users with choices (vendor kernels can sit in the AUR forever), document tradeoffs, and let them decide.
[23:58:02] <bschnei> This isn't ultimately up to me though (or any one person really) and a lot of these things will likely shake out when we start drafting an RFC.